Section 2. No Development – Developing / cycling in… without developing / cycling in the Wheel of Life, or in the chain of successive moments of consciousness; coming/going without coming/going; standing / coursing / abiding without standing / coursing / abiding in Suchness, not in absolute signs; perceiving / realizing / knowing without perceiving / realizing / knowing Reality as it is (suchness); conventionally recognizing attributes, marks, signs, causes and effects, without accepting them in absolute terms.
(Summary 2: Section 19.2 of Chapter 19 in the Perfection of Wisdom in 8,000 Lines deepens the exploration of conditioned co-production (pratītyasamutpāda) initiated in Section 19.1, focusing on the non-produced (no coming of the effect at the junction), non-stopped (no going of the cause at the junction) nature of thoughts (the chain of successive moments of consciousness with their concomitant mental factors) and their relation to Reality as it is (tathātā / suchness) as pointed by, the indescribable reality central to the Madhyamaka Union of the Two Truths [U2T].
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Subhuti opens by marveling at the unfathomable nature of conditioned co-production (the 12 links of dependent origination, the Wheel of Life),
prompting the Lord to probe whether a thought’s momentary phases — origination, duration, or cessation — are reproduced in subsequent thoughts. (i.e. examining the problematic junction between cause and effect, between two consecutive moments of consciousness, between two rebirths, between saṃsāra and Nirvāṇa)
Subhuti denies this, affirming that thoughts, like all dharmas, are not inherently re-produced; once past, a thought is doomed to stop by its nature yet not destroyed, as no inherent entity exists to destroy,
reflecting the Union of the Two Truths [U2T] about cause and effect, about two consecutive thoughts: thoughts arise dependently [T1] ⇐⇒ but are empty of inherent production/stopping [T2] ⇐⇒ one implying the other [U2T] ⇐⇒ in co-defined harmony, even empty of themselves [U2T-2T]. ⇐⇒ This underscores their illusory quality—like dreams or reflections, “there, yet not there” ⇐⇒ transcending tetralemma (not produced, not stopped, not both, not neither).
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The Lord extends this to future thoughts (not yet produced, thus not doomed to stop or destroyed) and all dharmas, whose essential nature — suchness — entails neither production/coming nor stopping/going, nor is it itself stopped, as it is immutable and non-dual.
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A Bodhisattva stands firm (without standing in absolute terms) in this same suchness, immovable like it, with no inherent thought within it, neither identical nor different from it, and invisible as a graspable entity.
This aligns with the Middle Way: standing without standing, free from attachment or reification, where nothing is accepted/rejected/purified absolutely, only conventionally for benefit.
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Coursing without coursing in the Perfection of Wisdom, the Bodhisattva abides without abiding in ultimate reality (suchness), not in absolute / inherent signs, as signs are neither inherently undone nor sustained by meditation — effort to forsake them prematurely marks a Disciple, not a Bodhisattva.
Skill in means lies in cognizing signs’ marks/causes [T1] ⇐⇒ while surrendering to the signless, practicing without practicing, aware of the three spheres’ [U2T]: subject (Bodhisattva), action (coursing), object (Wisdom/signless).
Sariputra inquires if aspiration to Wisdom increases through dream-development of the three doors to deliverance (empty, signless, wishless).
Subhuti affirms that day and night development are indiscriminate — dreams and waking are the same in suchness — emphasizing primordial purity: all states are interconnected, perfect, and non-dual, with practice in dreams as potent as waking, fostering abundant Wisdom.
However, Sariputra asks about dream-deeds’ karmic impact.
Subhuti clarifies: in infinite reality, deeds are dream-like, not adding to karma [T2] ⇐⇒ empirically, conscious post-dream reflection (e.g., endorsing a dreamed killing as “good” or “just”) generates karmic intent [T1] [U2T].
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This Union of the Two Truths [U2T] interplay — deeds functional [T1] ⇐⇒ yet empty [T2] — reveals the subtle essence: "acting without acting" in dreams/waking, aware of the Union of the Two Truths [U2T-3S], aligns with tathātā, in accord with the Madhyamaka reasoning (tetralemma ⇐⇒ emptiness ⇐⇒ dependent origination ⇐⇒ the Union of the Two Truths [U2T] ⇐⇒ illusory deeds ⇐⇒ Middle Way ⇐⇒ primordial purity ⇐⇒ cycle), where practice avoids karmic reification, revealing enlightenment as inherent, non-produced unity for all beings’ benefit.)
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TEXT: [Coming/going without coming/going – Not continuous, not discontinuous:]
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Subhuti: Unfathomable is this conditioned coproduction!
The Lord: Subhuti, does even the slightest portion of this first thought...whether just at this outset of this thought, or during this thought, or more towards the end of this thought...which seems to have stopped after its momentary appearance...does this get produced again at the time of the second thought? Consider also Subhuti, what of the outset of the outset, and during the duringness, etc., etc., do even these get produced again?
Subhuti: No Lord.
The Lord: Also once this thought thus produced is now past, is this due to its very nature doomed to stop?
Subhuti: Yes it is, O Lord.
The Lord: As anything is due to its very nature doomed to stop, is this destroyed?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: This future thought which is not yet being produced, is this due to its very nature doomed to stop?
Subhuti: No, Lord [as anything which is not being produced cannot be stopped].
The Lord: So, as it comes to such a point as by its own nature it is doomed to stop, will it now be destroyed?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: As this essential nature of this thought involves neither production nor stopping, is this now being stopped?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: As any dharma is, due to this essential original nature, stopped already in its own being, is this dharma being stopped?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: Is this true nature of dharmas being stopped?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
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[Standing / coursing / abiding without standing / coursing / abiding in Suchness:]
The Lord: Does any Bodhisattva stand firm in this same way in which Suchness stands firm?
Subhuti: Yes, one does.
The Lord: Is now Suchness not in danger of being changed away from overtowering immobility?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: Unfathomable is Suchness.
Subhuti: It is beyond fathoming, O Lord.
The Lord: Is here and now any thought in Suchness?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
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[UGM: The Ground and its manifestation are not different / separate / dual, not identical / united / one, not both, not neither:]
The Lord: Is thought [identical with] Suchness?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: Is thought other than Suchness?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
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[Perceiving / realizing / knowing without perceiving / realizing / knowing Suchness / Reality as it is:]
The Lord: Can you see a Suchness?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: One which courses/abides like unto Suchness, does one course/abide in the unfathomable?
Subhuti: Such a one courses/abides nowhere at all. As any ideas as to one's own performance neither habitually proceed in one, nor befall one.
The Lord: Where does a Bodhisattva course/abide as one courses/abides in the Perfection-of-Wisdom?
Subhuti: In ultimate reality.
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[Recognizing attributes, marks, signs, causes without accepting them, without rejecting them:]
The Lord: As coursing/abiding in ultimate reality does any Bodhisattva course/abide in a sign?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: Is the sign a sign as in something which one does not undo by one's meditational development?
Subhuti: No, Lord.
The Lord: Is this sign, to the Bodhisattva who courses/abides in the Perfection-of-Wisdom, something which is undone by one's meditational development?
Subhuti: The Bodhisattva does not make any efforts, while coursing/abiding in the course/abide of a Bodhisattva, to reach in this present birth any state in which all signs are forsaken. As one makes an effort to reach in this present birth any state in which all signs are forsaken, as any or all Buddha-dharmas are not complete in this one, one automatically is recognized as a Disciple. The skill in means of a Bodhisattva consists in this, as one cognizes any sign, both its mark and cause, and yet surrenders oneself completely to the Signless [realm of dharma, in which no sign has ever arisen].
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[Dreams:]
Sariputra: Does a Bodhisattva's aspiration to the Perfection-of-Wisdom increase as in one's dreams one develops the three doors to deliverance, i.e. the Empty, the Signless and the Wishless?
Subhuti: As this increases through development by day, this also increases in one who dreams about this. As the Lord says dreams and waking are indiscriminate, essentially the same. As a Bodhisattva which aspires to the Perfection-of-Wisdom, day by day courses/abides in the Perfection-of-Wisdom, one also in one's dreams remains close to the Perfection-of-Wisdom, and develops even now in abundance.
Sariputra: In one's dreams as one does a deed, wholesome or unwholesome, is this added on to the heap or collection of one's karma?
Subhuti: The Lord teaches all dharmas are like a dream, and infinitely so, as in such [i.e. from the standpoint of infinite reality] this deed is not added to one's heap or collection of karma. On the other hand [from the standpoint of empirical reality], this deed is added to the heap and collection of one's karma when, upon waking up, one thinks the dream over, and consciously forms the notion as wanting to kill someone.
How does one do this? During this dream one may dream of taking a life, and as one wakes up, thinks this dreamed of deed over like this: "It is good this being is killed! It is right this being is killed! It is just this being is killed! It is I who killed this being." Such thoughts are equivalent to the conscious notion this one wants to kill someone.