Section 4. Enlightenment and Emptiness – Is ‘enlightenment’ easy, hard, both, or neither? If it was ‘easy to know, obtain, attain, or get at’ then countless Bodhisattvas would not turn away from it. But indeed countless Bodhisattvasas turn away from it; we can then conclude that ‘enlightenment’ is ‘hard to know, obtain, attain, or get at’. And we cannot dismiss this argument just by saying that the ‘tuning away’ or ‘knowing’ are empty, showing no separate dharma exists to ‘turn away’ or ‘know’ enlightenment. Enlightenment is difficult to know precisely because it "cannot possibly come about"; it doesn’t fit our usual conditioned dualistic conceptual thinking. This non-attainability is the core subtlety: enlightenment is not an inherent production but the direct revelation of the true nature of reality as it is (tathātā), ‘hard to know, obtain, attain, or get at’ due to beings' habitual reification. It is hard to see through the infinite layers of illusions / conditioning / karma. It is about realizing without realizing enlightenment, without attachment, reification, effort or absolute; it is about pursuing what is ultimately unattainable.
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TEXT: Subhuti: How is it the Lord says full enlightenment is difficult to know, exceedingly difficult to acknowledge, as here is no one who can get at enlightenment?
As emanations of emptiness are all dharmas, no dharma exists which is able to win enlightenment.
All dharmas are empty.
This dharma for the forsaking of which dharma is demonstrated, this dharma does not exist.
As well is this dharma which might have been enlightened in full enlightenment, and this which could have been enlightened, and this which might have cognized [the enlightenment], and this which could have cognized such, -all these dharmas are empty.
In this manner I am inclined to think that full enlightenment is easy to win, not hard to win.
The Lord: As this cannot possibly come about is full enlightenment difficult to obtain, attain, or get at, as in reality this enlightenment is not here, for this can neither be discriminated nor figured as any base or ultimacy whatsoever, as this is not fabricated [in either reality or false appearances].
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Sariputra: As this is empty is this hard to win, O Subhuti.
Such does not occur to space as winning full enlightenment.
As such...for instance, as without own-being...any and all dharmas are [already] known in enlightenment.
All dharmas are space.
And, Subhuti, if full enlightenment were easy to win, then countless Bodhisattvas would not turn away from this.
As countless Bodhisattvas do turn away from this, here one can discern full enlightenment is hard to win, exceedingly hard to win.
Subhuti: But, Sariputra, does form, feeling, perception, impulse, or consciousness, turn away from full enlightenment?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Is this dharma which turns away from full enlightenment other than form, etc.?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Does Suchness of form, etc., turn away?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Is this dharma which turns away from full enlightenment other than the Suchness of form, etc.?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Does form, etc., know full enlightenment?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Is the dharma which knows full enlightenment other than form, etc.?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Does Suchness of form, etc., know full enlightenment?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Is the dharma which knows full enlightenment other than the Suchness of form, etc.?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Should form, etc., be known in full enlightenment, or any dharma other than form, etc. or the Suchness of form, etc., or a dharma other than the Suchness of form, etc.?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Does Suchness turn away from full enlightenment?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Is some dharma which turns away from full enlightenment in Suchness?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: What, Sariputra, is this dharma which turns away from full enlightenment, as we consider this as standing in this nature of dharmas, which is just emptiness, as so to is this manner of taking no stand in any dharma?
Or what dharma is this Suchness?
Is it perhaps Suchness is turned away?
Sariputra: No, Subhuti.
Subhuti: As thus in ultimate truth and as things stand, no dharma is apprehended as real, what is this dharma which is turned away from full enlightenment?
Sariputra: As one adopts this method of considering dharmas as ultimate reality, which Subhuti the Elder uses in this exposition, indeed here is no dharma which turns away from full enlightenment.
But now, Venerable Subhuti, here is no longer any ground for the distinction of these who set their hearts on enlightenment into three kinds of persons, who differ with respect to the vehicle which these have chosen, as described by the Tathāgata.
According to this exposition of the Venerable Subhuti, here is only one vehicle [for those whose hearts are set on enlightenment], this being the Buddha-vehicle, the Bodhisattva-vehicle, the Great Vehicle (Mahāyāna).
Purna: First of all the Venerable Sariputra must ask the Venerable Subhuti the Elder whether he admits even one single kind of being whose heart is set on enlightenment, and who uses either the vehicle of the Sravaka Disciples, or that of the Pratyekabuddhas, or the Great Vehicle (Mahāyāna).
Sariputra: Subhuti, do you admit even one single kind of being whose heart is set on enlightenment, and who uses either the vehicle of the Disciples, or that of the Bodhisattvas, or the Great Vehicle (Mahāyāna)?
Subhuti: Sariputra, do you see as Suchness of Suchness even one single being whose heart is set on enlightenment [i.e. as a real entity], be this one who uses the vehicle of the Sravaka Disciples, or that of the Pratyekabuddhas, or the Great Vehicle (Mahāyāna)?
Sariputra: No so, Subhuti.
Suchness, first of all, is not apprehended as of three kinds, how much less any being whose heart is set on enlightenment.
Subhuti: Is now Suchness apprehended as of one kind even?
Sariputra: Not so, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Do you now perhaps see in Suchness even one single dharma which would constitute a being whose heart is set on enlightenment?
Sariputra: Not so, Subhuti.
Subhuti: Thus in ultimate truth and as things stand, such a dharma which constitutes any being whose heart is set on enlightenment cannot be apprehended, where do you get the idea "this one belongs to the vehicle of the Disciples, that one to the vehicle of the Pratyekabuddhas, that one to the Great Vehicle (Mahāyāna)?"
Any Bodhisattva which hears this absence of difference, distinction or differentiation between the three kinds of persons who set their hearts on enlightenment, in so far as we are each and all 'encompassed' as Suchness, and do not become cowed or stolid in mind, do not turn back, now any of these one's know such as these go forth to enlightenment.
The Lord: Well said, Subhuti.
Through this might and sustaining power of Tathāgata you are inspired to say this.
Sariputra: To which enlightenment, O Lord, will these Bodhisattvas go forth?
The Lord: To this full and supreme enlightenment, so difficult to win.
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Comprehensive Summary of Section 4: "Enlightenment and Emptiness" from Chapter 16 ("Suchness") in The Perfection of Wisdom in 8,000 Lines (Aṣṭasāhasrikā Prajñāpāramitā Sūtra)
This section intensifies the dialectical exploration of full enlightenment (samyaksaṃbodhi) in relation to emptiness (śūnyatā) and Suchness (tathatā), extending the themes from Sections 2 and 3 on non-production, the union of wisdom and skillful means [U2T], and the transcendence of reified views. Through a series of negations and interrogations involving Subhūti, the Lord, Śāriputra, and Pūrṇa, the text deconstructs the apparent attainability of enlightenment, revealing its "hardness" not as an inherent property but as arising from the non-fit with conditioned, dualistic conceptual thinking—precisely because it "cannot possibly come about" as a produced or graspable dharma. As per the Madhyamaka perspective guiding this analysis, enlightenment transcends conceptual extremes (easy, hard, both, neither), but appears "hard to know, obtain, attain, or get at" due to beings' habitual reification of dharmas, skandhas, and Suchness, which veils the direct revelation of reality as it is (tathatā). This hardness is evidenced by countless Bodhisattvas turning away, an argument that cannot be dismissed merely by invoking emptiness; instead, it underscores the core subtlety of non-attainability—enlightenment is about realizing without realizing, pursuing what is ultimately unattainable amid infinite layers of illusions, conditioning, and karma, without attachment, reification, effort, or absolute. Conventionally, this motivates perseverance; ultimately, it negates all distinctions, affirming the inseparability of appearances [T1] and emptiness [T2] [U2T], where no dharma truly attains, knows, or turns away.
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1. Subhūti's Challenge: Apparent Ease Through Radical Emptiness
Subhūti questions the Lord's prior assertion (from Section 3) that enlightenment is "difficult to know, exceedingly difficult to acknowledge," countering: "as here is no one who can get at enlightenment?" He elaborates that all dharmas are "emanations of emptiness," so "no dharma exists which is able to win enlightenment." All are empty, including the dharma to forsake (defilements), the one enlightened, the enlightener, the cognizer, and the cognized.
From this, Subhūti infers: "full enlightenment is easy to win, not hard to win." This view highlights the non-production of enlightenment—no layers of fabrication to overcome, as nothing inherently exists to attain or obstruct. Yet, as per the analysis, this "ease" is not an affirmative extreme but a pointer to non-attainability: If enlightenment were graspable in conditioned terms, it would fit dualistic habits, but its revelation as tathatā defies reification, making it hard amid beings' karmic veils.
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2. The Lord's Affirmation of Hardness: Non-Attainability as Core Subtlety
The Lord responds: "As this cannot possibly come about is full enlightenment difficult to obtain, attain, or get at, as in reality this enlightenment is not here... as this is not fabricated." Enlightenment isn't discriminable as a "base" (entity) or "ultimacy," existing neither in true nor false appearances.
This directly aligns with the point that hardness stems from non-attainability—it doesn't "come about" as an inherent production, clashing with usual conditioned thinking. Śāriputra adds: "As this is empty is this hard to win," likening dharmas to space, where "winning" doesn't occur, yet all are "already known in enlightenment" without own-being (svabhāva). The hardness is thus the difficulty of seeing through reified illusions, not a dismissal via emptiness, but the pursuit of tathatā's revelation without effortful grasping.
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3. Śāriputra's Conventional Evidence: Bodhisattvas Turning Away
Śāriputra argues: "if full enlightenment were easy to win, then countless Bodhisattvas would not turn away from this. As countless Bodhisattvas do turn away... full enlightenment is hard to win." This empirical observation cannot be negated simply by emptiness; it evidences the hardness in beings' habitual reification—karmic conditioning creates infinite layers of dualistic concepts, making the non-attainable tathatā seem remote.
Subhūti interrogates: Does form (or other skandhas: feeling, perception, impulse, consciousness) "turn away"? Or their Suchness? Is the turning dharma "other than" these? Śāriputra repeatedly answers "No." Extending to knowing: No skandha or Suchness "knows" enlightenment, nor is it "known" by any other dharma.
Subhūti presses: "What... is this dharma which turns away... as we consider this as standing in this nature of dharmas, which is just emptiness"? Suchness itself isn't "turned away."
In ultimate truth, "no dharma is apprehended as real," so no turning occurs [T2]. Yet, this deconstruction doesn't dismiss the hardness [T1]; it reveals why enlightenment is hard — realizing without realizing demands piercing conditioned habits, pursuing the unattainable amid karma's veils.
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4. Śāriputra's Concession: Transcending Vehicle Distinctions
Śāriputra admits: In this ultimate exposition, "here is no dharma which turns away," eliminating grounds for distinguishing three vehicles (śrāvaka, pratyekabuddha, bodhisattva) as described by the Tathāgata. Ultimately, "here is only one vehicle... the Great Vehicle (Mahāyāna)."
This underscores non-attainability: Vehicles aren't inherent but conventional designations; hardness lies in reifying them, veiling tathatā's unity.
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5. Pūrṇa and Śāriputra's Further Probe: Emptiness of Beings and Aspirations
Pūrṇa urges Śāriputra to ask if Subhūti admits "even one single kind of being whose heart is set on enlightenment" across vehicles. Subhūti counters: Do you see "Suchness of Suchness" as a real entity aspiring? Śāriputra: "No."
Suchness isn't "of three kinds" or even "one kind"; no dharma in Suchness constitutes an aspiring being. Ultimately, no such dharma is apprehended, so vehicle ideas dissolve. Hardness persists because conditioned thinking clings to these distinctions, making tathatā's revelation — without attachment or absolute — elusive amid karmic illusions.
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6. Subhūti's Encouragement: Perseverance Amid Non-Difference
Subhūti concludes: Bodhisattvas who hear this "absence of difference... 'encompassed' as Suchness" without becoming "cowed or stolid" or turning back "go forth to enlightenment."
The Lord praises Subhūti, inspired by Tathāgata's power. Śāriputra asks which enlightenment; the Lord: "this full and supreme enlightenment, so difficult to win."
This reinforces hardness as the challenge of pursuing unattainable tathatā without reification — realizing amid layers of conditioning, where "turning away" evidences the subtlety [T1], not negated by emptiness alone [T2] [U2T].
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7. Integration with the Guiding Point of View: Madhyamaka Analysis
The text avoids extremes: Not affirming ease (as Subhūti's inference is provisional), hardness (as ultimate deconstruction shows no turning dharma), both, or neither — instead transcending via negation, revealing tathatā.
Hardness appears in conditioned dualism because enlightenment "cannot possibly come about" as produced, clashing with reification;
Bodhisattvas turn away due to karma's illusions, an argument standing firm as evidence of this non-fit.
Pursuit is realizing without realizing — non-attainable revelation [U2T: interdependent appearances [T1-3S] empty [T2-3S]], hard amid habitual grasping yet the essence of the path.
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Conclusion: The question of whether enlightenment is hard or easy dissolves into the core subtlety of its non-attainability, revealing that it is ultimately hard to know, obtain, attain, or get at — not as an inherent extreme, but due to the clash with beings' conditioned dualistic conceptual thinking and habitual reification. As the Lord affirms, enlightenment "cannot possibly come about" as a fabricated or discriminable dharma, existing neither as a base nor ultimacy, which makes it elusive amid infinite layers of illusions, karma, and conditioning; this hardness is evidenced by countless Bodhisattvas turning away, an observation that stands firm without dismissal through mere emptiness, for the revelation of Suchness (tathatā) demands “realizing without realizing”, “pursuing the unattainable” without attachment, reification, effort, or absolute, transcending all conceptual positions in the Madhyamaka tetralemma to point beyond ease or hardness altogether.
Note: Question: In Madhyamaka, when we talk about "transcending all conceptual positions, all dualities, all extremes", we are in fact talking about "transcending [T2] (without rejecting) all conventional truths [T1]"; and this means not accepting/affirming, not rejecting/negating; it means "using without using them [U2T-in-action]", without attachment/rejection, reification as good/bad, effort/non-effort, absolute. Madhyamaka reasoning is a limitless iterative process.
Answer: In Madhyamaka philosophy, as exemplified in Nāgārjuna's Mūlamadhyamakakārikā and elaborated in commentaries like Candrakīrti's Prasannapadā, the transcendence of all conceptual positions (dṛṣṭi), dualities (dvaya), and extremes (anta) indeed points to a profound engagement with conventional truths (saṃvṛti-satya) [T1] that avoids both affirmation (asti) and negation (nāsti), without falling into reification (svabhāva-graha) or absolutism [T2] [U2T-in-action].
This transcendence [T2] does not entail outright rejection of conventional truths [T1] [U2T] — such as causality, dependent origination (pratītyasamutpāda), or everyday designations like "self" and "other" — but rather their "possible use without using," a non-attached, non-effortful application where they serve as provisional means (upāya) for communication and practice, free from grasping them as inherently good/bad, effortful/non-effortful, or absolute.
Madhyamaka reasoning, through tools like the tetralemma (catuṣkoṭi) and consequential analysis (prasanga), operates as a limitless iterative process: it negates positions iteratively across layers of conceptualization, peeling away reified views without establishing a final standpoint, ultimately leading to quiescence (śānti) and the direct insight into emptiness (śūnyatā) [T2] as inseparable from conventional appearances [T1] [U2T]. This aligns with the Prajñāpāramitā sutra's emphasis (as in our discussed sections) on “realizing Suchness (tathatā) without realizing” — “pursuing the unattainable amid karma's illusions”, where transcendence manifests as equanimous engagement with the world, neither clinging to nor abandoning the conventional for the ultimate.